tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18943510.post6526365445154952266..comments2023-08-21T02:57:37.362-05:00Comments on Dr. Wes: Criminal Penalties For No Insurance Possible Under Pelosi BillDrWeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17438019699222125477noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18943510.post-37523556009503814882009-11-10T20:31:59.279-06:002009-11-10T20:31:59.279-06:00For those who can afford insurance but for some re...<i>For those who can afford insurance but for some reason do not purchase it, they simply pay the fee – a fee designed to cover their costs when they use the health care system. </i><br /><br />There cannot be an assumption that one without insurance cannot pay for their healthcare and are burdening the system when they use it. Yet this is the assumption in this bill - if you don't have Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18943510.post-45103916677781811032009-11-09T09:18:26.292-06:002009-11-09T09:18:26.292-06:00Did you ever figure that the reason health care co...Did you ever figure that the reason health care costs continue to escalate is because of the dislocation of prices and lack of transparency by government intervention? No, never let this enter the argument. We must just accept what is for it's own sake and build on that. Health care does need reform. Patients need to understand the full costs of their care. The more money that the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18943510.post-70375944543653228712009-11-08T16:23:22.338-06:002009-11-08T16:23:22.338-06:00For the record....
SPECIAL MYTHBUSTER: 'Refor...For the record....<br /><br />SPECIAL MYTHBUSTER: 'Reform Could Likely Mean Jail Time for Americans Who Don't Buy Insurance'<br />Congressional DeskNovember 08, 2009As debate heats up on the House floor on historic health insurance reform, House Republicans are pulling out all the stops to scare the American public about the Affordable Health Care for America Act, including speeches Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18943510.post-72447516462480097282009-11-08T15:53:25.463-06:002009-11-08T15:53:25.463-06:00Dr. Wes,
I am sick to death of these arguments th...Dr. Wes,<br /><br />I am sick to death of these arguments that, to put it kindly, play with the facts. This guy says the CBO projects insurance costs under health reform to be $15,000 in 2016. Has anyone considered what the same coverage will cost in 2016 without any reform? Give me those numbers and we can talk. Meanwhile, my brother-in-law's insurance through his employer for his Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18943510.post-43363030309702606072009-11-08T15:19:34.133-06:002009-11-08T15:19:34.133-06:00Dr. Wes,
Whoa! You're quoting Dave Camp? Fo...Dr. Wes,<br /><br />Whoa! You're quoting Dave Camp? For goodness sake. He is the LEAD on the recently submitted REPUBLICAN health care bill. And I think it is fair to say that the republicans would rather have their Mother face "death panels" than have this bill pass. I don't think your post is playing fair. ESPECIALLY since you are the guy who says the devil is in the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18943510.post-29315170208991019812009-11-08T15:01:31.872-06:002009-11-08T15:01:31.872-06:00Of course, the irony is that prisoners receive hea...Of course, the irony is that prisoners receive health care at the government's expense!Maureennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18943510.post-18652629579406185392009-11-08T08:39:03.095-06:002009-11-08T08:39:03.095-06:00You only have to pay 1,250 to the government so yo...You only have to pay 1,250 to the government so you won't be a criminal. Oh, right, well our projections were wrong and next year it will be only 2,000. Oops, we did it again...only 5,000 not to be a criminal. How about this? You give the government all of your money and we will take care of you and not lock you up. Government for the government by the government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18943510.post-43636668232991598252009-11-08T07:49:40.172-06:002009-11-08T07:49:40.172-06:00It's not that the bill per se creates a $15,00...It's not that the bill per se creates a $15,000 premium, but rather the bill requires you to buy insurance with certain features. According to the CBO, that will cost $15,000 in 2016.aconnhttp://www.andrewpconnors.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18943510.post-10201375011067978202009-11-07T21:26:26.055-06:002009-11-07T21:26:26.055-06:00First, I don't believe the bill creates a $15,...First, I don't believe the bill creates a $15,000 minimum premium. Second, a 2.5% tax penalty for failing to carry health insurance amounts to $1,250 for an adjusted gross income of $50,000 per year--and anyone with that high an AGI can afford the penalty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18943510.post-90295963969767869852009-11-07T19:57:58.117-06:002009-11-07T19:57:58.117-06:00This is not just a 'tax'. This is a viola...This is not just a 'tax'. This is a violation of our basic liberties. If you are independently wealthy and are not part of the FICA system with a salary, you will be considered a criminal for not paying money to the government for health insurance that you may or may not want. Our founders must be rolling over in their graves knowing that US citizens are required to pay money to the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18943510.post-26398170335613040672009-11-07T15:30:15.362-06:002009-11-07T15:30:15.362-06:00Bob-
I'll refer you from the press release fr...Bob-<br /><br />I'll refer you from the <a href="http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=153583" rel="nofollow">press release</a> from Dave Camp, ranking member of the House Ways and Means Committee which states: "When confronted with this same issue during its consideration of a similar individual mandate tax, the Senate Finance Committee worked onDrWeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17438019699222125477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18943510.post-35599260254775395342009-11-07T14:24:38.975-06:002009-11-07T14:24:38.975-06:00I did find reference to a tax of "2.5 percent...I did find reference to a tax of "2.5 percent" on those individuals who do not maintain acceptable insurance throughout the year. The criminal penalties are from the IRS tax code when you further assume that the person is obligated to pay, does not pay. Those who produce fraudulent tax returns are familiar with these criminal penalties already. Let's not build more fear about Named Just Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313050416904631547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18943510.post-8343744730772620852009-11-07T14:06:10.865-06:002009-11-07T14:06:10.865-06:00I ran a search on HR bill for both "2.5%"...I ran a search on HR bill for both "2.5%" and "250,000" neither search found anything related to criminal penalty for not paying.Named Just Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313050416904631547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18943510.post-18533026180101543522009-11-07T13:56:14.616-06:002009-11-07T13:56:14.616-06:00It's called a tax, Wes. Just like your income...It's called a tax, Wes. Just like your income and social securtity tax, if you don't pay them or attempt to avoid paying through fraudulant behavior, you can go to jail or be fined. What did you expect? For them to nicely ask people who break the law for the money they owe?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com